That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Stay Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: What if I informed you that regardless of the way you’re feeling proper now or what well being points you is likely to be battling, there’s one mineral you may begin taking that might make you are feeling noticeably higher inside simply at some point. Sounds virtually too good to be true. Doesn’t it?
That’s what I believed too, till I spent a while speaking to in the present day’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean.
Dr. Dean is without doubt one of the nation’s foremost consultants in magnesium and the affect it could have in your well being. And I received to inform you what she has to share is fairly compelling. And the perfect half is it’s fairly easy.
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At this time we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Carolyn Dean, who’s a doctor and naturopathic doctor. In addition to one of many nation’s main consultants in magnesium and the writer of the brand new e-book, Magnesium: The Lacking Hyperlink to Whole Well being. And in the present day she’s sharing some particulars in regards to the affect magnesium can have in your well being as together with why so many people are magnesium poor and the steps which you can take to right away begin feeling higher.
Like I mentioned, it’s fairly compelling. So with out additional ado, I’m very excited to have the ability to introduce you to in the present day’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean. Carolyn, thanks a lot for being right here in the present day. I’m so excited to speak to you.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thanks. Thanks, Ruth. I’ve been watching, not watching, listening to your podcast and also you’ve been interviewed fairly a number of instances by my pal, Michael Sandler.
In order that was enjoyable. Properly, anyway, I’m simply leaping in.
I’m a medical physician and a naturopath. However I believe I’m a naturopath at coronary heart. I did my medical coaching first and They didn’t dissuade me from wanting to assist folks with life-style and simply extra optimistic pondering, non-drugs.
And that was again within the mid 70s once I went to med college. And there actually wasn’t that a lot details about alternate options. There was no well being meals retailer. Within the metropolis the place I did my medical coaching, which was Halifax, Nova Scotia. So I wasn’t deterred by what I realized in med college, though it was all drug oriented they usually laughed at me trigger I made my very own yogurt they usually laughed at me once I was, puncturing an apple with acupuncture needles, as a result of that was my elective.
I discovered an anesthesiologist within the hospital, a Chinese language gentleman, who was doing an acupuncture clinic after hours. So he mentioned to me as soon as, yeah, you already know, I do all this medical stuff and sort of, you already know, intervene with folks in the course of the day, however then I make up for it once I do my acupuncture. So I had quite a lot of assist in staying with alternate options after which in my follow, it was, as I mentioned, I follow as a medical physician, however largely doing naturopathic drugs.
I sincerely thought by now, all docs could be doing nutrient primarily based drugs, however they sadly they went to the darkish facet. Critically, much more.
Ruth: Properly, it surprises me to speak to listen to you say you went to medical college within the seventies and it was already very a lot primarily based on treatment and prescriptions and simply not likely any alternate options even again as a result of that’s—you already know, 70s weren’t that lately and but now you’re proper. It’s gotten full. It’s gotten utterly worse and like actually dangerous.
Dr. Dean I keep in mind considered one of my clinicians saying solely give a drugs so long as it takes the affected person to get again on their toes.
And now we’ve received these lifelong medicines for diabetes, for ldl cholesterol, for you identify it. So it’s gone very medical and all of the uncomfortable side effects from all these medication. I imply, there are lots of of them. And worst of all is in my world, as a result of I’m an professional on magnesium. They deplete magnesium.
A whole lot of these medication are simply inbuilt such a method. A whole lot of them have fluoride molecules connected to them to make them simpler to get throughout fats cell membranes. Our cell membranes are product of fats and these medication get via, however. Within the intestines, these medication will be damaged down by the intestinal micro organism they usually’ll launch this fluoride.
So then we’re poisoned and the fluoride it should bind I believe primarily to magnesium as a result of magnesium could be very reactive. I don’t know that for positive. There’s no research. Nobody’s this. It’s my conjecture that when, as a result of chemically, magnesium will bind to fluoride, you get an MgF2, and that compound known as phthalate deposits in tendons and joints and ligaments.
And what’s the black field warning on ciprofloxacin, which is a fluoride drug? It’s tendon rupture. Folks will take, quite a lot of athletes will take Cipro. They’re giving it, Oh, I’ve received a chilly. I’ve received a sport arising, you already know, give me a drug. They take Cipro and typically it’s on one, you already know, one prescription.
Typically it’s cumulative they usually find yourself with tendon rupture. And we see that. I imply, I’m positive you’ve had shoppers who’ve had tendon rupture and it may very well be from as A fluoride drug. So anyway, the medication will not be good. Yeah. So what we do is attempt to use nutrient constructing blocks in order that the physique is robust in order that it could recuperate from sickness or damage.
I had a horrible fall a number of months in the past. I crashed on my elbow and my knee didn’t break a factor. I swelled. Folks thought photos of my arm or my leg as a result of it was so swollen. And also you recuperate. I’m 75. I ought to have damaged many bones. And it’s a testomony to how I stay my life and my vitamins that I didn’t.
And that’s what I would like folks to be taught. That there are constructing blocks they usually’re the fundamentals. You understand, they’re your nutritional vitamins. A, B, C, D, E, what else? After which your minerals. And like I mentioned I’m I’m actually keen on magnesium. And what I’ve executed with the mineral world is created a picometer sized, stabilized, ionic type, Of all of the minerals I work with in order that they’re instantly absorbed into the cells.
They don’t run out within the bowels or the urine. So the physique will get what it wants and it doesn’t should be excessive dose. So that you get your magnesium, your calcium, after all, however in our world, we’ve got an excessive amount of calcium. Ladies are informed to take calcium dietary supplements to guard their bones, however they’re not informed about calcium.
Or about magnesium and boron and molybdenum, all of the totally different minerals that go to make the bone and collagen. And meaning vitamin C. Entire meals, vitamin C and ascorbic acid. If you need your ligaments and tissue in your physique normally, you want your collagen. I imply, as we age, what gravity does to us is magnified if we don’t have sufficient collagen.
So there’s all, they’re simply primary constructing blocks, however see what I’ve found is and I’ve written it on this e-book, I’ve 65 medical situations that may actually be magnesium deficiency. And if we don’t deal with them with magnesium, then we give medication after which the medication make us worse. So we’ve gotten into this horrible bind and proper now I’m not, as you’ve heard, I haven’t talked about any model names of my merchandise that the FDA gained’t let me say that my formulation will help folks deal with or stop illness.
We rely on podcasts like yours for us to get the knowledge on the market for folks to know that. You understand, with magnesium deficiency, you may have acid reflux disorder, you may have Alzheimer’s and angina and atherosclerosis and anxiousness. I imply, have a look at the anxiousness in our world. Nervousness and panic assaults and even despair.
And I’ve heard your story. I do know what you’ve gone via. And if I might have solely had you and, you already know, soaked you in Epsom salt and gave you magnesium and, you already know, some B nutritional vitamins for positive, you’d have You understand, had an additional stage of coping so that you simply didn’t should face what you face. So there are mind results with vitamins.
And as a substitute of giving the vitamins, the minerals and the, you already know, the easy nutritional vitamins and omega 3 fatty acids, and naturally, vitamin D. Then we’re confronted with signs that then we both take medication for, or we take a complete host of herbs and, you already know, no matter, ashwagandhi and herbs that, in the event that they’re not natural.
They’re not secure to take.
Ruth: Can I interrupt you for only a second and we are able to possibly again up just a little bit as a result of I really feel like we, we talked about quite a lot of issues unexpectedly. And I, so I’d like to interrupt it down just a bit extra methodically for people who find themselves listening, who for who that is like all model new info, proper?
So let’s similar to perceive and begin with just a little bit like, of like how, so that you went to medical college and also you had been fascinated by like pure various strategies from the very starting, or was there one thing that occurred in your personal, via your personal expertise that actually received you enthusiastic about sort of following down this path?
As a result of it’s totally different than what they’re instructing in medical colleges. And apparently even again within the Nineteen Seventies, and in addition it’s totally different from the norms. So what was it that sort of received you eager to even go down like a special, take a special method?
Dr. Dean I suppose I used to be simply curious once I was in my teenagers and my then boyfriend, now husband of 58 years, we started touring and from Dartmouth, Halifax, Nova Scotia, we ended up in California in the course of the hippie days and we weren’t hippie, hippies, we weren’t druggies, however there was a diet revolution, Adele Davis, Pavarola, Jonathan Wright.
They usually had a number of books and the folks we had been staying with had a library. So I spent my time in that library and on the conventions with these unique well being consultants. And so I simply caught the bug. And I realized as a lot as I might, however what occurred is once I tried to go on the knowledge, folks weren’t that .
So lastly, once I was in honors biology in college, some youngsters, younger boys, males I knew in my courses, they only received into medical college. So I mentioned, properly, that’s for me. And I entered into the subsequent semester. I simply occurred to have all of the stipulations. So I went into drugs with the thought that, hey, you already know, possibly folks gained’t take heed to me if I’ve a medical diploma.
However as I already mentioned, you already know, that I imply, I used to be type of castigated as a result of I spoke pure issues. I might say, properly, I simply learn this paper that breast milk is best than bottled milk. And the pediatrician who was lecturing up on the entrance of the room, he known as me bubbles. He mentioned, properly, you already know, you could suppose.
The science is behind us. So, you already know, there you go. So that you’ll like this Ruth. It’s not on level, but it surely was so patriarchal and misogynistic or no matter phrases you need to say in med college. My class out of 100 was the primary class that had greater than 25 girls, 33 girls. So we took, after all we took over the primary day of college, a clinician got here in and put up his slide.
It was a slide projector in the back of the theater and he was down entrance. The primary slide was a nude feminine slide. The second slide was a brand new feminine. The third slide was a nude feminine. In order that’s the way it was being taught. And no person knew one another within the class and folks, you already know, we had been sort of. Trying round.
I did greater than appeared round. I went out and get a microbiology professor pal of mine who had a depraved humorousness. And he was within the med college realm. And I received a playgirl journal. It was most likely the primary version in 1975. And I took out the male nude photos and he made slides. So two days later, when Buddy got here again To proceed his superior lecture.
We had the nude male slides within the entrance of his deck by the second slide, he had grabbed his little briefcase and ran out. I heard later that from my microbiology pal. In a single day, they took down each nude feminine image that was littered all through anatomy and biology.
They took every little thing down. In order that’s direct motion. That’s not standing on a picket line and whining and complaining. It’s doing one thing.
Ruth: So you’re a trailblazer. Yeah, you’re a trailblazer. I find it irresistible. Okay. So now let’s speak just a little bit extra in regards to the minerals and the nutritional vitamins and these items that proper.
The pharmaceutical firms don’t need us to speak about as a result of they need us to take the treatment. And now, such as you identified, they need us to be taking medicines for the remainder of our lives. They don’t, I imply, that’s the entire purpose, proper. Is to get us not simply taking the medication to take the medication for so long as they will probably get us to take them, ideally for all times.
Okay. As a result of that’s how they take advantage of cash, however you’re saying we really must make it possible for we’re, if we simply can get the fitting nutritional vitamins and minerals to truly enable our physique to perform correctly. So what would you say are among the most vital issues that ladies over 40 should be centered on?
And the way do you even know the place to start? Prefer it feels it’s, it could really feel so overwhelming. So how do you want, like, what are sort of the fundamentals?
Dr. Dean We begin saying to folks, I’m, and I say, we, on my own and my customer support, and I’ve a radio present, on-line radio present each Monday. And the message we put out is the worst is over since you’re right here.
And what we begin with is magnesium and magnesium is critical for 80 % of recognized metabolic capabilities within the physique. All of the enzymes, every little thing from head to foot. Magnesium is critical to make muscular tissues and nerves work. And the way they do that may be a nerve cell or muscle cell shall be opened up. The cell mineral ion channel shall be opened as much as enable just a little little bit of calcium into the cell.
To permit it to fireplace off and create the motion potential. After which, so, when that’s occurring, the cell is closed down, after which magnesium opens the cell up. And the calcium comes out. In the event you don’t have magnesium for this perform, the cells sort of get floppy and the calcium simply drives itself in inflicting twitching and spasms and burning and irritation and tightness and mind fog, and we’ve got 600 muscular tissues.
Now we have 45 miles of nerves. So any of that may be affected, you already know, the attention twitching that I used. I’m a magnesium deficiency individual, you already know, poster little one. So I had the attention twitching and, you already know, swallowing issues, coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, Charlie horse, stressed legs. Tight shoulders, insomnia, complications, all of these are signs of even migraines.
Luckily, I didn’t have migraines. So all these signs of the nerves and muscular tissues. And you then get to the metabolic enzymes that magnesium works with. And that might be the digestion. You understand how our insulin is delivered to assist the glucose get into cells. simply how ldl cholesterol is made. The gene statin, the ldl cholesterol suppressing medication, they work on the identical enzyme that magnesium balances.
So statins will kill this, they, HMG CoA reductase. It’ll kill it. Whereas magnesium, if the physique wants extra calcium, it should manipulate the enzyme. If it wants much less, sorry, ldl cholesterol. If it wants extra ldl cholesterol, it should manipulate the enzyme and vice versa. So we’ve received a method for the physique to do issues correctly.
So, and your subsequent query goes to be, properly, why aren’t we getting sufficient magnesium? We don’t get it in our meals anymore. It’s been farmed out of the soil and it’s very costly to, to place all of the minerals again within the soil. So I’m, you already know, quite a lot of my focus outdoors my on-line dietary complement firm.
It’s a biodynamic natural farm. I put every little thing into this farm. And if I attempt to eat fully off the farm with rooster eggs and all of the greens and fruits, I get all my magnesium deficiency signs again. I’ve been at conferences the place vegans and vegetarians will come as much as me after my magnesium lecture and say, properly, I’ve twitching and this and that, however I’m consuming 30 to 40 ounces of inexperienced drink a day.
I needs to be getting sufficient magnesium. And I say, properly, clearly you’re not. After which they take my liquid magnesium and Critically, they arrive again the subsequent day they usually say, I really feel so significantly better. As a result of they’re mainly very wholesome, as a result of they’re not consuming, you already know, most likely not consuming the seed oils, not consuming straight sugars, and all the remainder of it which are dangerous for us.
And the magnesium they had been lacking after they take it, it’s like, Oh, okay, my cells actually like that. And you may be doing all the fitting issues and consuming all the fitting meals and consuming rather well. However what you’re saying is you’re nonetheless not getting the correct amount of magnesium as a result of it doesn’t exist in the best way that our meals is produced and manufactured and raised and grown anymore.
Ruth: So how are you aware, is mainly everyone magnesium poor? I imply, is that simply sort of throughout the board? After which how are you aware how a lot magnesium you ought to be taking?
Dr. Dean: This will get into the issue of magnesium compounds versus stabilize the ion of magnesium. However I at all times say that any quantity of magnesium even the worst absorbed like magnesium oxide is a straight on laxative as a result of solely 4 % of it’s absorbed.
However folks really feel higher after they take it. Research have proven that magnesium oxide helps folks. So in case you have any magnesium in your cupboard, you already know, begin taking just a little little bit of it. However in case you take an excessive amount of of it, it’ll provide the laxative impact. And quite a lot of docs would say properly, in case you get the laxative impact, then that’s sufficient, your physique has absorbed sufficient.
That’s not the case. It’s simply received run proper via your physique and turn out to be a laxative and that was my drawback really. When Random Home requested me to jot down my Miracle of Magnesium e-book again in 1999, I ran, I noticed my signs within the analysis I used to be doing. I ran out and received a bottle of magnesium as a result of I needed greater than was in my a number of and I instantly received the laxative impact with 50 milligrams.
So I needed to go on a ten 12 months search for a corporation and eventually, I discovered a chemist who would make a non laxative stabilized ion of magnesium. And it’s the one one which’s accessible. And so it’s my mission to let folks learn about this, however like I mentioned, any magnesium, it’s going to assist. However in case you’re on a half a dozen medication and feeling all of the signs head to foot, you want extra magnesium.
That’s not going to make the laxative impact magnesium compounds. Once they get into the bloodstream, they are going to disassociate. It’s known as. into the 2 components, magnesium and the citrus citric acid, the magnesium and chloride, magnesium and the glycine. And it’s solely separated for a cut up second. And it’s solely in that cut up second the place the ion of magnesium will soar right into a cell.
And do its work, however you already know, there are trillions of properly tens of trillions of cells in our physique, so You understand, there’s at all times one thing occurring however we’ve got gotten to the purpose now with our Power PTSD as a rustic as a world. The horrible food plan that persons are consuming the huge stress The dearth of minerals in our water that we’ve got to complement.
And what I’ve begun, properly, it’s been years, however I’ve talked about whole physique meltdown that’s occurring in of us the place the thyroid is affected and weakened, particularly in girls after getting pregnant and childbirth, the thyroid could be very a lot. depleted. And what allopathic drugs and various drugs each do is that they wait until the thyroid is completely tanked they usually give thyroid hormone alternative.
I used to be on armor thyroid and after I made my magnesium product, I made a a number of mineral with all of the stabilized ions. And within the analysis and all I discovered 9 minerals that assist thyroid hormone manufacturing. 9 minerals. So I put it in amongst a complete of 12 minerals. Six weeks into taking my very own formulation and we had been testing it out.
My palms and toes received heat and I used to be extra hyper than regular. So I noticed, oh my gosh, my thyroid is kicked in. So I ended my arm or thyroid. Now, that is what the FDA doesn’t like to listen to. And I can inform you hundreds of individuals since then have been in a position to get their thyroid hormone again. And we’ve got to warn folks while you take this a number of mineral, you already know, bear in mind that your physique could not want.
As a lot or could not want the thyroid hormone anymore. And that’s fairly highly effective. Once you consider the constructing blocks which are needed, the adrenal glands, they depend upon sodium. And what are we telling folks? Don’t eat salt, depend upon the B nutritional vitamins, they usually’re not in our meals provide both, and vitamin C and magnesium.
Easy constructing blocks. And there’s potassium in there as properly. Potassium is vital. Truly with magnesium generally, they assist the absorption of one another. So then you’ve gotten the intercourse hormones, you already know, when the thyroid is weakened it drags the adrenals and vice versa. After which it, there’s a drag on the intercourse hormones.
perimenopause. I don’t suppose it’s regular. It’s simply been a reputation that’s been given to girls who I believe have whole physique meltdown they usually’re simply dragging on their thyroid and their adrenals and simply feeling horrible. Yeah. However this, the boron. There’s a complete record of issues. Primary minerals that the intercourse hormones bend on in addition to ldl cholesterol.
Ruth: So, so how does, so magnesium, you’re saying it impacts ldl cholesterol as properly?
Dr. Dean: Completely. So the various kinds of magnesium, that is fascinating to me. So are what, which is the kind of magnesium that individuals needs to be taking if the magnesium is inflicting sub deficiency? Yeah. Sure. So. The advertising and marketing of magnesium previously, you already know, 10, what’s it, 15, 20 years?
I believe quite a lot of it’s primarily based on my e-book, the Magnesium Miracle. It’s not this e-book, it is a shorter type and an replace of all issues magnesium. However in case you have a look at the advertising and marketing of quite a lot of these magnesium compounds, they’ll reference my e-book or me. And what they’ve tried to do is say. Oh, you already know, MagniTML308.
On the entrance of the label 2000 milligrams and also you suppose, Oh, my gosh, 2000 milligrams of magnesium. I’m all set. Flip the label round. Oh, I’ve to take three capsules with a purpose to get solely 144 milligrams. Oh, my gosh. In order that’s sort of promoting. And Then they do the magnesium L3 in a folks. They did a examine on rats and mentioned it was 7 % extra absorbed into the mind than a magnesium citrate primarily based on 7%.
They’ve satisfied the general public that they’re the one magnesium that may get into the mind. Any magnesium in its ionic state, you already know, once I get it disassociated, it should pop into the mind. So that they’ve actually, you already know, and it’s an costly product as properly. They’ve actually executed a disservice to the general public.
It’s closely marketed. It’s it’s comes out of China. We don’t know what’s occurring with it. And in some cases, they attempt to say that threonate is like threonine, which is a an amino acid that’s good for the mind, but it surely’s a threonate, which is a spinoff of vitamin C. So it has nothing to do with something.
And the advertising and marketing of all of the others. Oh, properly, you may get a magnesium malate and that’ll assist in case you’ve received fibromyalgia and the tour a magnesium tour. It can assist the guts and this the glycine and glycine magnesium glycinate will do assist the intestine. But when it’s a magnesium deficiency that you simply need to handle, you need the magnesium.
You don’t need the taurate or the malate. And that’s why I’ve the stabilized magnesium ion, 300 milligrams per dose, straight magnesium. Whereas you are taking A 500 milligram capsule of a magnesium compound. The magnesium half is 50 to 75 milligrams and the remaining is the add on. All the opposite stuff.
Ruth: So, however what you actually should be centered on. So, I imply, that is all like very technical stuff that we’re speaking about and it’s simple to get overwhelmed with all of it. So, how do you method this in case you’re simply eager to. Enhance your well being, proper? How do you method this in a method that makes it actually easy to know, okay, right here’s precisely what I must do, proper?
Simply give me, I hear this from my shoppers on a regular basis. Like, ah, I like listening to about all these items, however then I get overwhelmed and I don’t know learn how to implement it. So how do I’m going, like, what do I do? Simply inform me what to do step-by-step. So what are the steps? Let’s give like three steps.
Dr. Dean: Primary, get hydrated.
Okay. You want water and also you want sea salt in that water. So you are taking your physique’s weight in kilos, divide that in half, drink that many ounces of water per day. After which every quarter liter put And I’m going so as to add 1 / 4 teaspoon of an excellent sea salt. Good sea salt means one thing that has colour in it.
If it’s a white sea salt, it’s been too refined. However you don’t begin with 1 / 4 teaspoon. Simply begin with a pinch. And also you’ll get, it’ll style candy to you. It’ll style so significantly better than. Then water out of the faucet and water out of the faucet. It’s been filtered. It’s been chlorinated, possibly Florida.
Florida. So we do need you to have non chlorine, non fluoride waters as a lot as attainable. So you set within the sea salt, primary, hydration with sea salt. And quantity two, simply begin taking some magnesium. Like I mentioned, everyone’s received magnesium of their cabinet. I assure you, however you’ve most likely put it apart due to the laxative impact.
If it’s a powder, put it in, in your sea salt water. After which sip that via the day so that you simply’re not simply taking one, one harsh dose like that may overwhelm your self and land in your gut. That’s a laxative of the liquid powders, even capsules, Ruth, folks might take a magnesium capsule. and put that in water and attempt to dissolve it and drink that via the day.
I do know there’ll be binders and fillers in there, however you’re swallowing it anyway. And the third factor could be to come up with my e-book. It’s a really it’s an easy to learn, overview of magnesium, which is critical for 80 % of recognized metabolic capabilities. After which on the finish of it, you could determine that, properly, possibly I ought to do this.
And as soon as folks attempt my Pico meter magnesium, they don’t look again. And that’s what you need from vitamins. You need to really feel them work. My a number of minerals introduced my thyroid again and did a complete bunch of different issues. And my magnesium, it took away my coronary heart palpitations and a dozen different signs. So, it’s And what’s it?
The proof is within the pudding. Yeah. Properly, I imply, that makes it really feel lots less complicated and undoubtedly much more doable. Eat the water, add the salt, which is in, which is completely reverse of what folks inform us. Then take the magnesium, no matter magnesium you’ve gotten, simply. Begin taking extra magnesium and getting extra magnesium.
Ruth: It’s very attention-grabbing. I haven’t heard that prefer to unfold it all through the day and be consuming it all through the day. So I actually like that. After which undoubtedly try your e-book. We are going to make certain so as to add the hyperlink to your e-book in our present notes. So in case you’re listening to this, then you may simply try the present notes and we are able to, and you will discover the e-book and to learn extra Carolyn, thanks a lot.
